Colombian Carolina in Copenhagen

Colombian Carolina in Copenhagen

May 16, 2023
We caught up with Carolina from Copenhagen to ask her about motherhood, career and balance. Read her story here...

Carolina, can you tell us a little about what you do and about your family?

Of course! Im a Colombian artist living and working in Copenhagen, Denmark. I work mainly with analog photography, the very painterly kind, but I also enjoy diving into other disciplines like prints and sculptures. For a large portion of my life I have also worked with music in a very diverse range, so from working on Tom Waits album campaigns Europe-wide, to setting up a remembrance show for Jay Reatard in Copenhagen, to teaching at the Danish Rhythmic Conservatory. These days I am also on the board of Another Life, a non-profit organisation focusing on working with representation of all genders and minoritized people in the Danish music scene. I am a bit all over the place and my interests are very wide, but I enjoy both doing my own creative projects, as well as working with artists in various fields. Yet all within a creative and (in many cases) unconstrained or rebellious contexts. In 2011 I moved to Copenhagen from Amsterdam, together with my Danish husband (and Brixton Ambassador) Anders Scrmn Meisner. He makes the most beautiful and color-rich paintings out there, full of romance and irony, just like his persona. He is a great inspiration for me and a fantastic playing partner in the arts. Together we run a collab studio called TRBL Studios, which is a playroom or experimental playground for our artistic development. With him, almost ten years ago we had our son Samuel, and three years after that our little boss Antonia. They are as different as night and day these two, but they both have my Colombian brown eyes and Anders robust temper, so I’m the luckiest woman in the world.

You recently published a photobook and did an exposition about motherhood called: Because a mother never stops bleeding. Can you tell us more about how this project and where you got the inspiration from?

Thanks so much for asking about this! It’s been quite a ride with this project. Like most projects it started with personal exploration, I was desperately trying to understand the person I had become after I had my children. I am ofcourse myself, but how I experience the world has gradually changed drastically in these 10 years. By this I don’t mean practical things like time, priorities, responsibilities, etc. Those were a given and I was ready for them. It was deeper than this, its how your senses get spiked to levels above the norm, how fear creeps in you and you cant get it out, it was so alien, and the very brave and fearless woman I knew myself to be had disappeared through my fingers. Since the birth of Samuel I had been making very altered photography, never accepting the real tones of what I saw, even though my subjects were the usual ones. And I failed to understand why I did that, I just did it so instinctibly. So being the science lover that I am, I turned into neuroscience for the answers. I wanted facts to explain the emotions, not the other way around. Thus for the last two years I relentlessly sat and read over a hundred studies, talked to neuroscientists, been in an operating theatre seeing a human brain work, and listen to too many podcast to try and get some picture of what had happened, biologically speaking. With this knowledge I slowly curated a small publication where science, mundane poetry , women’s brains and candid photography meet to help paint the picture, or lets call it draw a doodle, of the maternal experience. Fx Did you know that a woman’s brain shrinks with pregnancy and some parts remain shrunken for at least 6 years after the birth of her child? or that almost twice as many mothers than fathers in Denmark needs psychiatric help after the baby is born? that in the UK, 18% of the deaths of mothers after a year of birth are by suicide, and over 20% by overdose/psychiatric? We know everything about our baby from conception, but we know nothing about ourselves and the neurological changes we go through. While doing the research it also quickly informed me how little science is done in women’s health. How little is invested in it, how diminished the value of a woman is compared to that of her child though the eyes of those who finance research, and how systems are painfully just not built to support the weight we women carry for society. It was devastating and heartbreaking. So what started as an idea to make a book, ended up as a publication that resembles more a newspaper format. This was a choice, because I could only touch up on the headlines, the real book of motherhood still needs to be researched to be properly and fairly written. About 80% of the women worldwide become mothers, and all 8 billion of us have come out of a woman’s body, we can not talk about anything close to equality until the cost of motherhood in women is properly addressed.

How do you balance mom life, personal and work?

To be honest I dont ha ha! But I try. Its a continuous and evolving exercise, and it changes also with the stages of your children’s age I think. I had to give up artist management when we had Antonia. It was my choice, I felt both like a poor mother and a poor manager, because I couldn’t do both things as I wanted to do them, in my own terms and with my own expectations. So I stayed with music but in a more arms length-traditional schedule way, which has been great, because I still give back to musicians and feel I make a difference, but I don’t have so much responsibility towards them, plus it gave me way more time for my own art. Both Anders, the kids and I love routines and flexibility, so our family values and goals revolve around this paradigm. How to be there for each other and involve each other in the different aspects of our lives is very important for us as a family. Our kids travel a lot with us, go to openings, do sculptures with us, dont flinch when I take pictures and take part in a lot of the creative freedoms we have. But in all honesty, I don’t know if there is ever a balance. In reality is more of a dance, sometimes I lead, sometimes my family does, but in the end we all move to the same rhythm

Did becoming a mother change your view of life?

It changed everything. Ive never been more afraid of dying as when I had my children. Yet, at the same time, I haven’t smelled anything as intoxicating as the smell of my little girls head, nothing. And noone can make me smile as fast as my boy can, when he shows me his too-big-for-his head adult teeth within a cheeky smile. Everything changes, you need to relearn your own life in a beautiful and giving way, where the smallest things matter the most, and the big things can wait until tomorrow.

Tell us one of your favorite cherished moments with your kids.

Thats the toughest question here, because they are infinite. I love cuddling in my daughters bed and having her tell me stories while she moves her little hands though my face, and I love holding my boys cold hand while we walk from school and he tells me more stories that I actually can compute in my head. It’s so random and mundane things, but if you ask me one last thing I’d like to experience before I die, it would be those two.

How do your children inspire you, and how do you want to inspire them?

Antonia is the most eloquent and blunt creature I know, she humbles me on a daily basis with her understanding and observations, she is just so emotionally intelligent, it really inspires me. Samuel on the other hand is more of a closed box than I am, but his humour and immediacy is what I wish I had more in me, to maybe see life in a different light. And as my children, they are the reason I risk and do things out of my comfort zone. They are also the reason I’m more valient to voice injustices. You just want the world to get their shit together so that they can have at least the same happiness you have. They inspire me to make a difference, way more than I did before. Having children shrinks your selfishness, because the world and your life are not longer just yours anymore. I can’t honestly say how I inspire them, but I try and focus a lot on empathy, fairness, and on unrestrained kindness. Not just for people around them, but also for ones we don’t know but might be affected by our actions, and also for nature in all its forms.

What’s the last thing you read, watched or listened to?

As I’ve been working so densely with text and imagery for my publication and exhibition, I actually dive mostly into music these days, specially instrumental music, so words don’t take mind space. A few weeks back the great Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou passed away, and her compositions have been the place I go to everyday, they are just stunning! Playful and unpredictable, but they demand nothing of you in this selfless way, its fantastic music to work to, and she had such a beautiful story. Do dive into her music and life when you have a moment.

How would you describe your personal clothing style and what is a wardrobe essential for you?

I am the most relaxed person you will ever meet. Fashion was never a big thing for me, I went to a private school where we had to wear uniforms on a daily basis, so that “expression through your clothes” just few by me. I just didn’t care, and words and art are my most valid expression forms. For me what is important is comfort, tones, durability and sustainability. I do have a few things I take everywhere, which are a roomy denim shirt which can be relaxed or styled up, and my Brixton bandana is a must and always in my bag. I use it to cover my hair if it drizzles, around my neck in if it gets cold, and in the heat to gather my big hair up in a pony tail. Its really a saver for anyone living in a country with Schizophrenic weather (I’m looking at you Denmark/ the Netherlands!). Oh yeah, and you will see me in sneakers 98% of the time.

What is your favorite piece from our current collection?

The Naples sweater vest! Its, again, one of those pieces that are stunningly classic, can go for any occasion and are versatile for all kinds of weather, I love it. The Burt MP cap is also getting a lot of use now as spring has finally arrived here up north with a lot of sun, and I really appreciate the classic design and beautiful color composition/tones.

May 16, 2023
Tags: Mother's Day
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